In this post, we will consider what pastors and congregations are supposed to do in response to such persons who emerge in their midst. The mass followings, the hundreds for Christ are just numbers. So you never know. Id like to know how you find Christine Cains teachings to not be Biblical? Because you dont like Christine? Lets focus on the Love of Jesus and love love lovebe Jesus out thereChristine Cain, Joyce and all those you judge..they love the Lordperhaps u should look inward friend. What do we know really? Loved the circle maker. Anna, thank you for speaking up. As I mentioned yesterday, pastoral ministry is not merely a building up, but also a tearing down. Ex-lesbian Jackie Hill Perry recently rebuked Christians who were angry that she spoke on stage at Christine Caine's Propel Women conference and called Bethel Music's Jenn Johnson her friend. Whether you point that out or not. The Lord had to show me, through his word, that by marrying Nick we would have a ten-fold impact. While Copeland remains the leader of the Word of Faith movement, several newer mass media Word of Faith preachers have eclipsed him in popularity, viz., Joel Osteen, Benny Hinn, Joseph Prince and Joyce Meyer.. My friend Alan Hirsch says: We have to read Jesus meaning just come back to that central place. Hear our latest radio programs including GPS, Hour of Decision Online, and Billy Graham Minute. You think God could never really do anything with your life. You will have to stand before God in all things that you have said including the ways you are talking about Gods people here. When learning we have a responsibility to also study and pray with diligence and seek Gods will not blindly follow the teachings of any man or woman.. Talk about losing sight of what REALLY matters. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); 1 Billy Graham Parkway, Charlotte, NC 28201 She travels without her husband! Pluease! But it should also be motivated by a desire to see false teachers come to repentance and faith. (Here and Here) Piper, who holds to a complementarian view, has received a lot of heat for sharing teaching duties with a woman who claims false teacherJoyce Meyer as her mentor. If you dont feel an urgency, which most dont, what results is drifting. When she first heard the diagnosis, Caine says her mind began to race "down the worst track like a runaway train, and I had to pull it back before it hit a wall and caused irreparable destruction." Grad school is life itself in the church. I'm basically a Greek Orthodox mother's nightmare: I didn't marry until I was 30, didn't have my first child until I was 35, and I travel the world and teach the Bible. There are no super-Christians, theres an amazing God. And I wont get into the Catholic church and its covering up of abuse, or twisting of scripture to idolize the Pope and Mary. And I believe that impacts 24 hours of our day, seven days a week and every sphere of life. Her mother's name was listed as "Panagiota." Her father's name was listed as "Unknown" - one word with seven letters numbed her. He takes the trials and tests and turns them into a testimony.', and 'Nothing about my birth - or yours - was random or accidental. What do you spend most of your time worrying about?. In doing so, you are also females teaching the word. Dont mistake love of the world for the true love of God, His Son, and His scripture. It sounds broad, but you think of the kid left in a hospital it would be just like God to take an unnamed, unwanted, abused, adopted girl and go: Im going to redeem all of those fragments of your broken past and put them together as a tapestry of my grace. Your past will do one of two things: either shame, guilt, regret, condemnation will cause you to shut down, or God can take those fragments and give someone a future. 5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me. Zip it!! We're now able to provide a place through the A21 Campaign, an international antihuman trafficking organization with the goal of abolishing slavery in the 21st century, for those who feel like they have no purpose and that nobody loves them. Is it helping these teachers repent? I do not talk about ministries I have not had any sort of direct contact with. Christine Caine is wife to Nick, mother to Catherine and Sophia, author of Undaunted, and founder of The A21 Campaign, an antihuman trafficking organization striving to abolish slavery in the 21st century. I can assure you, you wont. She was approached by a woman citing Timothy, and that she was in the wrong and my daughter said, Well I have a hard time believing that Jesus would disallow my entrance into heaven for dedicating my life to HIS word and for bring people to HIM. Seriously wake up you people who instead of spewing hatred for people, love and let JESUS make the judgements. Hagins principal disciple was Kenneth Copeland who, with his wife, Gloria, is the unofficial leader of the Word of Faith movement. Sad that some Christians are so narrominded and judgemental.. .thats the reason people turn away from Jesus. #Past #Trials #Tests "Often the very things that you think have disqualified you are the ones that qualify you to do what God has . Heck, Christine taught me to get more diligent about making disciples and you found a way to completely trash that. Wow. We have examples in scripture where bona fide believers are the source of error in the church. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. Finding your way back to God when everything is pulling you away(Nelson). Has the author of this article suddenly become God and we are unaware of it? The reality is that while these religions are easily identifiable in places like the Congo, Haiti and Mongolia, they arent so easily identified here. It cost me everything to go forward with Jesus. Read out White Paper on the Word of Faith Movement, Christine Caine, Complementarianism, Elizabeth Prata, Heresy, Hillsong Church, Joyce Meyer, New Age Movement, Occult, Sin, spirituality, Word of Faith. But we are supposed to believe be brave enough to call it to their faces? Husbands arent overseeing their wives writings and teachings, and any attention that they pay to their wives work is not through the lens of Scripture. Mary was who we worshiped and the saints more than anything. Let God judge, not these people who protest about these awesome people bringing tons of people to Christ. You call Paul as your back up? As we came closer to the time of Christ, mankind in its rebellious teenage years, we had the lessons of the prophets. Deuteronomy 32:30 says: One will put 1,000 to flight, two will put 10,000 to flight. For me, love would not have been enough to get married. Thanks, Amy! But I will stand by comments regarding Caine, Meyer and all those that are still playing on peoples emotions while passing off a diluted version of scripture, once again if Ive offended anyone it was not intentional. Then mankind graduated from a belief based on laws, as we all did growing up under the laws and rules of our parents, and came to live in a belief based on faith. And I have never heard them condemn anyones teaching like they are being condemned here. BGEA is a registered 501(c)(3) non-profit organization. I cannot be made up like I am for television for everything I do, or I will never have a life! she says. Or, as SBTS President Dr Al Mohler put it, a prosperity movement for millennialsthat minimizes the Gospel content and diffuses a presentation of spirituality instead. This is so dumb. First of all to those defending Christine Caine, the bible Gods Word, makes it very clear -women are not to preach,so quit defending her,and attacking us warning others not to follow her for their own good, instead take it up with God and argue with Him if you dont want to listen to his commands and have issues with them, tell God he is wrong ,not us.Why dont you read His word instead of lazily listening to people who you obviously are unable to discern if they are leading you off of the path , its about Him not these false prophets. I dont need to personally seek them out, thats been done over and over, Matthew 18 does not apply to confronting false teachers Is this verse what you think applies to dealing with false teachers? When we as Christians criticize each other we in public settings we become a stumbling block for the lost and a weapon of the enemy. 3:5-9). >. But theyre not the only ones suffering shame; even those with a charmed life are prone to being ashamed of who they are, she said. It hurts to look at. - Christine Caine. Jesus said Narrow is the road and only a FEW find it. So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate. Karen you just dont get it! I have Matthew 18 to back me up. "I sat in many waiting rooms full of cancer patients I could see the fear in their eyes. What was Yahwehs word for them repent, return or you will be judged. In 2016, Christian author Carey Scott was the victim of plagiarism by a major celebrityinternational speaker and evangelist Christine Caine. As Priscilla is always paired with her husband, Aquila, it is difficult to separate her and place her on a pedestal of her own. And if you think God didnt use women to lead men and women in scripture Jakes conferences, Joel Osteen conferences, Bethel conferences, preaching at Perry Nobles church, Robert Morris church and conferences, Rick Warrens church, and Steven Furticks church and conferences. We must allow or error otherwise we cannot trully attend any church because as soon as we walk in there is sin and error. I know there is a BIBLICAL way of calling someone out for false teaching, and anonymously posting on a site behind their backs is NOT IT. Ive had non-Christians call out amazing observations about my character (both good and bad) and speak unbelievable truth into my life.I even grew to fall in love with the scripture through being challenged about the path to salvation by a cult member! So many things we call biblical are just cultural. Last week, we released a new episode of our podcast, Pardon the Mess, with Christine Caine as the featured guest. loads of accusations with no documentation.. So, I guess Queen Esther is in hell? What are you making your God? Read what the real women of God did in scripture, neither Cain nor Meyer fit the model. Its not about who is qualified, whether they are male or female, whether they have gone to college for decades or even if they arent human. This woman of God, like every other women of God has a powerful testimony, this woman of God, like every other women of God is a powerful witness of Christ Jesus that makes the name of Jesus great. Word? Living in the archaic mindeset that a womans place is in the home negates part of what God created and presumes mankind will not grow and adapt over time. Best-selling Christian author Christine Caine is calling on all Christians to get real and be authentic in their relationships in her new book. 12:18). A friend told me that there was an evangelist from England, a Cypriot Greek called J. John. How do you know that? It certainly has been the fight of my life to get to the place of trusting God to redeem the broken pieces of my past for his glory. The reason is obvious. Such a person is not to be given religious recognition of any kind, because to do so would mean that the believers would then share in his evil deeds. I went through such a personal journey the last two years where I discovered new areas God wanted to heal in me. Dont sit back and have others do the work for you. Where does it say its ok to have others do the confronting for you? don't embrace the pain of emotional or spiritual recovery because there is pain. Home Sanctify them through Thy Truth: Thy Word is Truth. John 17:17 Anything contrary to Gods Word produces tares. II John 9-11. Where did you meet? Christine Caineusurps male authority and rebels against the clear word of the Bible Progressive (Social Justice) Christianity I was sexually abused by several men in my life at a very young age. Pastored by @ericbgeiger. You are way off base here and this is a pretty ridiculous article. I began really working through issues God was bringing to light. She was so desperate to overcome the pain that Christine read every book she could on the subject, and even began . 3:3). As long as false teaching exists in the world, you must be willing to meet this challenge if you are to be a pastor. God is good and God does good, but bad things do happen to good people. And so I will go to the king, which is against the law; and if I perish, I perish!. One day all the walls that man created with denominations will fall and we will stand before our King and will most likely realize that none of us had it all rightas much as some of us might like to think. You obviously have no clue what it is you are talking about and have never heard any of these people speak. (Marin)Did you know that Lydia and Priscilla are both listed BEFORE their husbands in the book of Acts because the writing style of the day indicated listing the LEADER of the household FIRST?. Anyway be blessed ! Unrepentant false teachers are, men of depraved mind, rejected as regards the faith (2 Tim. Saturday, 23 January 2021 00:57. I am sorry to say you seem like really unhappy, envious people who just seek to divide and bring fear, manipulate and imtimidate. Word of Faith And Id much rather that than to shut up or wait for a man to tell me what to do. Paul has a word to those who are pastors and who aspire to be a pastor. Harmoniously, they labored together in the service of the church. I guarantee you did! Has the author of this article ever listened to Christine Caine? Study of the two commandments Jesus left us would be better use of your time. Paul ratchets up the rhetoric when facing down serious error coming from Hymenaeus and Alexander: Some have rejected and suffered shipwreck in regard to their faith. If any human being, or even an angel from heaven, preaches another gospel (another of a different kind), Paul prays that he should be accursed. If its a false doctrine, its a false doctrine, no matter you feelings about it. Amy, I am all for lovingly correcting others or discerning scriptures. THE PANDEMIC HAS CAUSED PEOPLE TO DRIFT FROM CHURCHITS TIME FOR US ALL TO CHECK OUR MARKERS. Spoke at Bethel Church, delivered there a false testimony and strongly unbiblical teachings. Purpose Driven What Not to Say to Single Women in the Church. And we go to bed at night thinking I didnt do enough, I wasnt kind enough.. So here I am! Are you intimidated by the words, testimony, presence of a powerful woman of God? (Acts 8:17-20,Matthew 6:9, Isaiah 57:8, Revelation 9:21). Paul wrote letters DIRECTLY to those who were out of linehe didnt write to everyone else BUT them. Do you think theres a lack of urgency in Western Christianity, because were too comfortable? Response to correction reveals whether you are dealing with a brother or with a wolf. I didn't start 25 years ago with a global ministry. Im sure they used scriptures to defend themselveswhich ones did they use? A Berean? Somehow I doubt theres much of that going on. Thank you, Amy, for cleaning up that mess. Hmmm, sadly, after reading all these comments, which were initiated by the original article It has affirmed even more my belief that we all just dont get it! I know there is a BIBLICAL way of calling someone out for false teaching, and anonymously posting on a site behind their backs is NOT IT. I needed to feel this I had to walk through my own valley, but their path seemed so much harder and darker than mine," says Caine. I had to trust that God knew what was going on in my life and that if He brought me to it, He would bring me through it. In your workplace, on your street, in your community, in your home, to be an authentic, passionate follower of the Lord Jesus Christ in this era in the West is extremely costly. I think we need to get that place where we can rest in Christ and get our identity and value in Him and not in media or other people. The dont judge paradigm doesnt apply when someone calls themselves Christian, usurps Gods word, and wants to play pastor. And if a wolf pulls me from the ocean and I move on to someone better, because the wolf is more concerned with their next prey, then I am still saved. 22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven. 22Many will say to Me on that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles? 23Then I will tell them plainly, I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness., Man was made in Gods image. Christine Caine: When you start being abused, you think what is happening to you is . Why, because God has called them to that profession. Paul wrote letters DIRECTLY to those who were out of linehe didnt write to everyone else BUT them. In Apollos case, his deficient teaching was an error of omission. I cannot believe I just read this comment on a Christian site. Are we just being pugnacious? There are two kinds of false teachers: those who repent and those who do not. In the end, I need to know what I believe, and make sure my life aligns with it, before I start pointing fingers at others. As a young woman, I was making a lot of poor choices. Im only ever one thought away from thinking how I used to think, she said. You keep posting all these articles (written by men) about what people SHOULD do to confront false teachers, and talking about what you WILL do, but you are not answering my questions about what YOU ALREADY DO AND HAVE DONE and how WHAT YOU ALREADY DO AND HAVE DONE aligns with scripture. Do you have an example of how saying,Youre lost, I bet you voted for Obama and Hillary drew someone to your church? In conclusion, whats the point of confronting false teachers? They walked as one for they had mutually agreed to put Christ first. The key issue is how we respond to correction. (Marin) Im pretty confident that both of these women were richly blessed.. I have not met Ms Caine in person to have a conversation with her, so I will not breach scripture and start publicly questioning her faith or berating her ministry without giving her a chance to answer any questions and concerns I may have. . l suppose you believe judging others is wrong correct? Kenyons principal disciple was Kenneth Hagin Sr., the recognized father of the Word of Faith movement. ), and it is my prayer they will be baptized this Easter. Christine Caine is a member-leader in a doctrinally heretical word-faith church, twisting a scripture that warns against false teachers, http://followingjesuschrist3.com/2014/09/18/false-prophets-and-teachers/. If you have won souls to Christ this way, or have gotten any of the people you attack to repent, then AMEN. Paul even confronted Peter to his face about his hypocrisy in front of the fellowship. So Ive got to do exactly what Im telling anyone else to do. It isnt wrong for women who are in Christ to correct error Act 18:26 And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly. Christ and Paul confronted people DIRECTLY. Its sad and disappointing that this site calls for us to throw the baby out with the bathwater and ignore Christines call for us to keep winning souls for Christ. Praise Jesus. ~ Christine Caine. Instead of this kind of criticism, you should do as they do, pick a subject on your experiences, teach & encourage pole to walk in Jesus Christ. Ill be sure to steer clear. I had to really get to a place where I felt Id made good headway in living a shame-free life, to be able to put the stuff that Ive learnt in writing. Scriptures to defend themselveswhich ones did they use somehow I doubt theres much of that going on are narrominded. 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